Skaro

I vote option 1.
I will share what I am thinking: I was never very comfortable with the idea of the foundation, because to me the idea of Bitcoin is using clever mathematics to avoid politics. A foundation picking winners and losers is the definition of politics, and I wasn't comfortable with being in that position.
There was some thought to use the foundation coin to come up with a provably fair way to distribute the foundation coins with a "faucet". But in my opinion this would take a level of mathematical innovation on the level of Bitcoin itself, and we are very unlikely to solve this problem if it is even possible.
Distributing the coin to miners is provably fair, but this is a political decision to reward the miners. Is there any indiciation that Freicoin needs a higher level of security which we would be buying with rewarding the miners at a higher rate?
Anyways, please consider opinion from someone who was involved in the release of this coin but not so much now, I apologize for that.
 

Ill go with Option 1

Vote 2 

Vote for option 1. 

I'll vote for option 2, but I'm more  interested in a decision being made efficiently and implemented.
UPDATE:
so ill support any except option 3. It has bad optics and many wallets have been abandoned.

The basic income is payed through facebook messenger bot. Just log in and send "join" to register m.me/solidar.winc. There were some complaints about using facebook but there are some important features:
1. automation - i dont need to verify each account (facebook does it)
2. One can send SLR to any other registered bot user for free in no time
3. There is no knowledge about cryptocurrencies needed.
4. It runs on every system where the facebook bot runs.
5. The amount of potential users is "tremendous" ;-).
6. Facebook already has a marketplace for their included apps, that gives a lot potentially use cases.
You have to check your balance each month to let the bot know that you are active. And thats all.

@Skaro Hi, got my windows back up. Can not say why but usb is not starting had to use ps2. The new exe for windows is here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/hwrxnv39ss6xbu4/solidar-qt.exe?dl=0
Can you check please if all blocks are loaded? thanks a lot..

Is there a way to boost mining rewards? maybe double every 5th block or something to add a bit more of a randomness to mining and a bonus for those that have been mining and still are mining and keeping the blocks turning over? I think some sort of benefit to mining and/or taking away the transaction fee or if these funds could subsidise the fees for the remainder of the foundations coins. As it stands, Freicoin doesnt hold any value these days so the quicker the foundation is laid to rest and could be announced on forums the better. It would help in starting the promotion of the coin again if thats where everyone wants to head. 
Or has the foundation tainted freicoin too much already? I think Bick is the best person for being straight up with the views of the foundations role with freicoin haha

Option 3 some months after the matching is done.
 
UPDATE:
I see no use in having just more coins for mining. Just more coins does not mean more security, because increased supply will most likely reduce the price so that security wise it stays the same.
 
I propose to bring the remaining foundation coins after matching is done in circulation as block reward and combine it with a softfork that makes sure that some part of the block reward is used for Freicoin related projects.  The softfork is enough if enforced by the main Freicoin economic nodes, so that it is easy to change later.
For example, create time locked transactions that spent (100% as fee) of the foundation coins over a three year period with unlocking one transaction every 10 minutes.
 
Then add a softfort:
the main economic Freicoin nodes enforce that a certain part of the block reward is send to a specific address if less then 100.000 coins are on the address.
if we don't empty the address than at max 100.000 coins will hang on it. 
In the future we could implement a smarter distribution mechanism like outlined in other posts.
 
 

When Freicoin was launched, we thought the Freicoin Foundation could be a good way to use "excesive rewards to miners" for good causes and to promote Freicoin adoption. Since then, 3 of the people initially in the foundation have distanced themselves from the project (in part, because of the foundation), we haven't been able to keep up even with the matched donations distribution program, which also hasn't move towards a more decentralized implementation (like republicoin) and no other distribution programs have been implemented.     I haven't been maintaining the website properly and Mark hasn't done the matching often enough. We apologize for that.   Many potential users distrust Freicoin "because of the foundation's 'premine'". Sites are often confused about Freicoin's monetary base of 100 M because of the foundation's funds, and people often belive that Freicoin still has inflation on top of the demurrage (but the inflation was supposed to only last the first 3 years).   The foundation has also been a constant source of friction and conflict within the Freicoin community, often demotivating both users and developers when not causing direct confrontation between each other. It has also taken volunteer resources which could have otherwise gone to actual development and innovation.   At this point, I'm convinced that the Foundation has not only not helped Freicoin but actually has done the opposite.   On top of all that, the ecosystem has been invaded with "Initial Coin Offerings" and other schemes which I personally consider scams. And although I think the foundation is very different and not a scam, I'm no longer sure regulators will be able to tell the difference when the time comes. The last thing I had in mind when proposing Freicoin was going to jail because of the foundation (which actually was a later idea, wasn't there in the initial proposal).   We explained that if the foundation ever misbehaved or got their funds stolen, Users could activate a softfork to destroy those funds. The foundation can also destroy those funds unilaterally, but we want to ask the community what would be the preferred way to close the foundation, since there are several ways to achieve this technically.   Since it was promised to match 100% instead of 10% and some more donations were done with that expectation, we can do one last matching (including going from 10% to 100% retroactively as promised) before destroying the remaining funds.   Here are some other options, please,    1) Simply destroy them by sending them to an OP_RETURN output. This has the disadvantage that there will be inflation again and it will take very long until all the 100 M are issued.   2) Turn them back into mining rewards by creating txs only with fees that are locked in time, so that each block can take one. We can decide at which rate they're given to miners and for how long (until they're gone). With this we can get to the 100 M much faster and has the additional advantage that provides more incentive to mine (which is currently extremly low).   3) Distribute proportionally to the current freicoin holders. This has this has the disadvantage that chosing a given time may look unfair. Is it after the final matching, right after, wait for the donation receivers to spend their coins? This may also cause a price crash, but it's hard to tell.   4) Destroy the remaining funds like in option one, but also do a softfork to reduce the current miner subsidy so that instead of the monetary base growing to 100 M, it just remains to whatever it is now without the remaining foundation funds. This requires a consensus change, may cause a hasrate crash (because the incentive for miners will suddenly much lower) and we lose the round and beauty 100 M figure.   My favourite option is number 2, although it has more parameters to discuss.   If anybody thinks of another option, please, share it.   One more time, we apologize for how the foundation was handled, I wish we had never done it in the first place, but this is where we're at.
 

This could easily last a few months so please wait..

Wow

Wow

I started today to work on porting Solidar to version 0.14. I will start with the coin/ demurrage part first, so it can be ported to FRC with some effort..

WOW 890k at 50 sat somebody will be really sorry during the next pump.. If there will be one.

LOL ok, i looked into the current bitcoin code. And there is no file the same than in version 0.8.6 that solidar is on atm. i guess this will take a lot of hours...

at this point i would not recommend to add Freicoin to any other exchange.
if we dont have enough volume we will loose again the Exchange.
Coinmarketcap also dosnt display the Freicoin trading volume right...
I would concentrate on first updating the Clients and bringing projects like trading rewards, universal divident new clients etc to run.

Indeed it is, blocks were read perfectly! The Interface is showing the blocks and i am very happy (although there are other important things on the list this was a pain for me for a long time).
I had a 50 SLR bounty for making a working block explorer, if you like to have it please say which address i should send to..
Rik

Well, that's good news.

Yeah you mentioned that before, the merge mining and the explorer. I believe you, but I don't really understand it. The way I see it, the explorer reads and parses in info from the wallet block chain files. as long as the block is valid it should read? But it's true that ABE  also surmises the current longest chain ...
 

Hmm now it loads blocks like a charm.. Don't know what you guys did to my code but it seems to work, tomorrow ill be wiser..

Though there are no dates to fix the progress i like to announce what is planned/going on and a short explanation also to #Solidar:
TOPIC: Port Solidar to Version 14, this will be a hard one, because Merge mining and demurrage has to be ported.
TOPIC: I like to make deposits possible and i am thinking about an easy to use/ effective (automated with no further interaction) way to prevent multiple accounts.
TOPIC: With the porting to V14 there is an easy way to compile windows clients on ubuntu what makes it a whole lot easier for me to compile new wallets for every version.
TOPIC: Marketing, make a short describing video.
TOPIC: Get the dnsseeder running again.
TOPIC: Get an own Forum for Solidar.
TOPIC: Program SolidarPay plugin to accept split payments with the merchant bot.
DONE: There is no explorer atm and the most convenient way seems to me to use an electrum server to query addresses, because most alternatives don't work for Solidar.
DONE: I like to advance the facebook messenger on-line wallet to increase merchant compatibility.
DONE:  @fedde is working hard to implement it into freiexchange.com, thanks a lot for that. Other exchanges are not planned atm as it is very costly to get Solidar on, there is no demurrage implemented and exchanges like to cut support when something is not as expected (mostly profits).
Here a short description what the concept is about:
When you just wait with your account (just check balance monthly to get an income) at some point you get as income what the demurrage cost you, so there is a stable redistribution system in place. So, at a certain point there is nothing to win by hoarding. As the higher balanced addresses are stronger degraded than the smaller even the basic income can not save those, so that sooner or later all look the same (excluded the mining addresses).
But as capitalism (the concentration of wealth) is an ongoing mechanism there will always be richer peoples that loose money to demurrage, so the monthly income is thought for those that can not save any money. They have to spend it and they profit the most because they get an unconditional income.
Demurrage money is meant to be spend for quality food, clothing, technology and social improvements (e.g. donations to open source developments/free music). Those who tend to hoard will not profit but most important dont take away opportunities from other people!
Of course the association have to use some funds to finance development marketing and organizations if there are not enough donations, but we try to keep the profile as low as possible and every coin spend will be transparent, so everybody can participate in keeping the costs low.
Most likely fedde will include Solidar first but i keep it updated..
Rik

Hi Skaro,
at the moment it is just possible to sign in by using the solidar bot at facebook. But my idea was to create a sign up portal where you can sign up with your email. I had around two hundred accounts on it. But most of them were without a Solidar address or even any login.
Additionally it was not possible to manage the payout automatically, so i had to use an sendtomany command to send the income and had to control which addresses were new and if they were up to date..
So i decided to switch to the facebook bot. It can check if a user has send a request in a month, so he receives the income for being active. One can send and receive solidar with other bot users off chain (fast and fee free). And you can withdraw your coins via the bot. Everything automated..
I can try to use the ABE explorer but i did it a few times in the past and it always got stuck after some time (my guess is that the merge mining created big blocks when there was a miner using p2pool with 256 coinbase payout addresses each block (only for the parent chain). But hey, lets try ;-).

a) Can the Market wallet receive the 'basic income'?
 
Where do you sign-up for the basic income?
 
c) Can't you use our new explorer for Solidar? I should think all you have to do is:
1)clone it from GitHub then search and replace in DataStore.py and Abe.py "1/POWER(2,20)" with "4/POWER(2,20)"
2) other regular ABE things that change for different coins.
 

Yup. So part of your job in coordinating this is identifying and contacting that member. 
@Arcurus, @fedde, @Bicknellski, and anyone else, who would be the best to contact that fulfill those criteria (Sunicoin's post ^)? @jtimon?