MANGOS - Suggestion for Universal Dividend Distribution with Web of Trust with plus Levels

[Arcurus 331]

Hi all,
here are just some ideas about how an universal dividend / basic income could be distributed with an web of trust:
This idea is in an very early stage!

 

This approach with levels is more meant for an game like approach and could be used in unviveral divident games that educate about it.

Still would be nice to make experiments with it..

This example is based on the MANGO experiment!

In short in the MANGO experiment each user get 1 MANGO per hour.

To be fair in the long run MANGOS are decaying with 20% per year.

To test it 1 second simulates one min. 1 Month simulates therefor round about 10 years.

First:

- add the possibilit to add picture or link to picture / social profile

 

- Change: So that one ¨accepted¨ verification counts for both mango eaters (participants )

because if you need to verify somebody, so or so you need to see his real face, to verify the picture

maybe better call it verified friend and make it similar to friend request in social networks

- Add option to donate to the Universal Dividend Project / Donations are redistributed to all participants
alternatively allow also to donate to other verified projects

- Add listing of all donations
 

- Change: Restrict verification to one verification per donated 24 Mangos (DailyIncome)

 

- Verifications must be renewed every 5 years

 

This would give the first usecase to Mangos and test some alternative verification system



Second:
- Add display of mango Levels:



Level 1 = 10 frienddays

Level 2 = 30 frienddays

Level 3 = 60 frienddays

Level 4 = 100 frienddays

...



friendday += (Sum LevelFriends) * days - demurrage

--> the more friends the better

--> the higher their level the better



- Change distribution of mangos and donated mangos according to levels

the higher the level the more mangos

(Of course this would not be relative money anymore, but would still be fair, because the higher your trust level the more mangos and the higher your trust level the more difficult to reach the next. therefore newcomers have the change to keep up)

[Arcurus 331]

here an suggestion that is based on the average trust instead of levels:

https://freicoinalliance.com/topic/183-mangos-suggestion-for-universal-dividend-distribution-with-web-of-trust/

[Samuel 23]

I have another variation with a centralized institution and verification levels instead of webOfTrust mechanism, just as a different proposal. 

What levels of verification do you suggest? And how are they defined?

4 Levels: 

• 1 | Anonymous: Login & Signup with normal user. Just look around, you are not verified yet.
  (verified: false)
• 2 | Verified: You have been verified by a member with level 3, you now receive Mangos
  (verified: true)
• 3 | Verificator: If you have been appointed by a member with level 4, you are able to identify other members
  (verified: true)
• 4 | RootVerificator: As root verificator, you are able to appoint Verificators and other Root Verificators
  (verified: true)

At which level will you get mangos distributed?
Level 2: The moment you are completely verified 

 

Who is able to verify who?
Level 1,2: notAllowed
Level 3: 1 and 2 
Level 4: 1,2 and 3

 

No verification lasts forever, when will be a renewal due or how can you fall out of your current verification level again?
No ideas yet, what would you suggest?

 

If there are black sheep abusing their verification level, who and how are they going to be suspended from their level?
No ideas yet, what would you suggest?

http://talk.liv.io/t/proposals-for-simple-verification-methods/14

[Samuel 23]

This is a centralized approach, I was thinking about today on this topic:

**Introduction to the vocher model**

As fas as speaking today, there is still a lot to be discussed around the legal state of alternative- and cryptocurrencies, since non-government identities are so far not entitled to create their own currencies. One inspiring workaround was found by our local currency in Bavaria, the [Chiemgauer][1], which lead us to build on that solution and advance their model to a global scale operation. 

The solution the chiemgauer organization was choosing is to build their currency on the definition of vouchers. A voucher can be issued by any legal identity as long as it is tightly coupled to a real currency, such as the Euro. In case of the Chiemgauer, 1 Euro is the same as 1 Chiemgauer.

 

**Adaption of model to a basic income currency**

We were wrapping our head around how to take advantage of that solution and jumpstart an alternative currency with integrated basic income. Our proposal, the Mango Bank:

 

The MangoBank will be founded as a non-profit organization, whose main mission will be to verify individuals and other organizations and connect the vouchers to the euro. In order to be able for the MangoBank to always pay out Euros for their vouchers, each new verified member will have to deposit 5€ in the MangoBank. Our conversation rate will be put at 5€ = 50.000 Vouchers. Since for each person there is going to be only 43.800 vouchers generated, the 5€ will equal to 4.38€. The remaining 0.62 Cents are the bounty for our hardworking verificators, that are traveling the world to reach every last individual to enable everyone to receive our basic income vouchers. 

 

Since we have open markets, the vouchers can gain higher value over the course of time when traded in the markets. Thus, making the MangoBank Organisation obsolete, once other institutions are exchanging the vouchers for better exchange rates than the MangoBank...

 

To be continued soon

 

  [1]: http://chiemgauer.info/

http://talk.liv.io/t/mangobank-our-proposal-to-give-out-universal-dividend-vouchers/18/1

[Samuel 23]

Sorry for spamming your post, for the centralized proposal, continue here:
https://freicoinalliance.com/topic/184-mangos-proposal-for-centralized-verification-institution/
 

[Samuel 23]

- Change: So that one ¨accepted¨ verification counts for both mango eaters (participants  )

because if you need to verify somebody, so or so you need to see his real face, to verify the picture

maybe better call it verified friend and make it similar to friend request in social networks

That makes sense. 

- Add option to donate to the Universal Dividend Project / Donations are redistributed to all participants

alternatively allow also to donate to other verified projects

Its already there: 

http://mangos.liv.io/projects/ue8We5MP6s3LAipPR

- Add listing of all donations

Done  http://mangos.liv.io/transactions

- Change: Restrict verification to one verification per donated 24 Mangos (DailyIncome)

Hmm, not sure yet.

- Verifications must be renewed every 5 years

Done

- Change distribution of mangos and donated mangos according to levels

Me no like, since not so social and shy people would have an unnecessary disadvantage

 

[Arcurus 331]

great work!

can you list also the sum of all donations per person in the people tab?

and the list of how many verifications some one got and gave?

 

 

- Change distribution of mangos and donated mangos according to levels

 

alternatively: list the verifications someone has and use then some kind of liquid democracy platform  like adhocracy to vote new members in and cheating members out with a 2/3 majority.

[Arcurus 331]

 

Me no like, since not so social and shy people would have an unnecessary disadvantage

 

lol by the way, do shy people really use facebook

[Samuel 23]

can you list also the sum of all donations per person in the people tab?

That one I will do. 

and the list of how many verifications some one got and gave?

Not yet, because verification system will still change, once changed ,I will do