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  1. 'ay, fair points Bick. I'd like to see/hear more detailed visions of the future from both as well. Here on the forums or on the Freicoin website that is.. both have voiced some of their ideologies on some other mediums while discussing other topics, so they are out there for anyone who has been following their work I hope this isnt seen as stalling, but I'd like to see some discussion/opinions on the option 2 still though. Especially from jtimon, since it was his preferred choice. So @jtimon did you have some kind of schedule or scheme thought for this based on some ideals? Thoughts for others: 100mil cap could be easier to psychologically accept for some people than the number that would be set after the fork. "Why is the supply this random number" -> research -> "Ohh, they changed it afterwards based on small number of votes" -> decrease in confidence. A well planned schedule could also allow us to attract miners and users. If the rest of the coins would be made available for mining on certain date (for example 1.1.2018) and would be mined by end of 2018/2019/whatever, there could be time to get some of the Alliance mining and/or basic income projects up&running. This would in some aspects be kind of replacing Foundation with Alliance.. though the Alliance is holding some funds received from the foundation matching, so would also be a way to distribute them as well and ~correct the Foundations.. "mistakes" too.
  2. I would've liked to see the Foundation continue. At the current moment in time though, I understand the wish to end it since there is no tested-to-work tech for the fair distribution (self-sovereign/decentralized ID, WOT, voting systems).. as well as the inability of our small community to launch the many centralized experiments we've discussed/planned/outlined to attract wider user base Option 3 I dislike, since there are a bunch of coins in lost privkeys (and possibly in questionable entities possession; case Cryptsy) -> Drags out the "full supply" of coins available for circulation. I'd prefer option 4, but option 2 could be as acceptable Option 1... I wouldnt like to see inflation added, but it wouldnt drive me away from Freicoin neither. Edit: Short off-topic comment @ Arc and Bick: I totally see both of yer points and comments and theres validity to them.. especially with that theres not been that much communication with the devs during the past years with the couple of channels we tried (Forum/IRC/Mumble/Blab etc.), but there wasnt too much attendance from the community neither To make this short; the Bitcoin development team has done some mindblowing codewizardry during these years that will benefit Freicoin too once the client gets updated Theres also the things from Blockstream projects that Jorge mentioned above that are really neat and should help with the experiments we've discussed before. So dont be too harsh with Jtimon and Maaku, I think we've (the world) benefited more with them working on those projects ^^ (pfft.. not that short.. I'll try to trickytrick with smaller font :D)
  3. Maybe kick the can down the road a bit, if its possible? Move the Foundation coins to a time locked contract, spendable after certain day and/or require softfork? If not moved within certain amount of days/blocks -> destroy/redistribute/whatever. Theres some neat technologies being built and getting realeases in the not-so-far-distant future, so could be useful to have the foundation coins for some use cases which might come available later. From what I understand, sidechains / drivechains will bring a lot of new possibilities for distribution mechanisms and other logics
  4. Vircurex is alive again it seems
  5. I tried with 0.8.6 on Sunday after Skaro posted the discrepancies between the nodes, but got stuck on block 163*** as well. Didnt mess around further, but messaged this thread to jtimon and maaku. Saw jtimon mention on IRC about doing/testing? some client updates on 27th.. dunno if its related. Got some oldschool festivities this week around the town, so I'll try the newer client during next week... but hopefully we get a response before that from the devs *edit: typo
  6. This reminded me, in conjunction with the Skaro's mention/question of possible attack... Ye guys happened to see the coins "recovered" from Cryptsy? FRC not listed... "High value" coins: Other coins: *edit: Too bad them block explorers aint working (and I dont have mi notes at hand)... but if I recall correctly, Cryptsy held around 2million coins? *edit2: Source for the pics: https://steemit.com/crypto-news/@steempower/court-documents-reveal-that-cryptsy-liquidators-intend-to-market-sell-seized-coins
  7. During this past week, I've managed to access the site a couple of times.. though indeed, mostly giving the "Under heavy load" errör. It's been doing this for weeks.. and the support havent responded to contact attempts during this time. If ye have coins in there, it'd prolly be wise to keep an eye on when its up and get 'em out
  8. Its been down since.. when? I'll slap fedde with a large trout to try and wake him up
  9. Ye should be able to sweepysweep the paper with the older client? If we dont gots no plans for some wider activity/projects within the FRC community/people to get some projects running.. I'd say it'd be a waste of the FA funds to even offer a bounty for this task.
  10. Excellente! Glad to see theres demand/orders for the choco's so the students get to practice their skills ^^ Since the winter is making its way (snowed here yesterday already :)), I'll ask around the town if 'em grannies and geezers wanna make a group order to store up on christmas sweets I'll let ye know in a week or two ^^ Hmm.. Bick, do ye think setting up a webstore to order the choco's from would be good experiment for your students? For example, setting up a OpenCart shop with @fedde's crypto/frc payment plugins? I'd gladly help out with the setup if needed (its really easy though) and I bet fedde could offer some advice as well? *edit: Ohh, and one comment/question about the brochure pics; have ye tried centering the choco pics that have the black background? The pics currently seem slightly.. "off" balanaced?
  11. Dayuuumn Bick! I'm not much of a sweet tooth.. but those choc's look very temptingly tasty *nom* Can I buy some? Happy to hear and see that the experience was fun and fruitful in the chocolate school Coins well spent! ^^
  12. Yup, thats correct Sent the tx for 95usd worth of BTC BTW, note that when you add the address to the loan agreement, the signature will change. So for example, now that my and Arcurus's addresses are added in there, when I sign the agreement again it produces different hash So for clarity, it maybe would be good that we all sign the same agreement without the addresses? Or then sign it when all the addresses are in there
  13. @Bicknellski I'll make the payment as soon as blockchain.info fixes my login, hopefully still today. (Yeah, I know.. I should change the webwally provider and indeed will do so when I get access ><) *edit: Sent the test tx Signature for loan agreement: H+sJmAkVXkspuoKmrMU9zBRqXsQi8cTqzOE2PdoTZ9jKTphDJK2SOO1YsxnLk0x/AZtJQL44DmZbl4b563rzN8w=
  14. Yea'yuh! I'll support this as well I'd also think, along with @Arcurus, that nominating the loan in FreiHours at this point could be more stable option? And also would see this project be something to support with the FA funds On what date is the workshop starting?
  15. Alright Thats cool with me at the start, to indeed see how it would work. Ohh and yeah, I also support @Arcurus taking over the FA wallet handling ^^
  16. Looking goodie! Only thing I'm a bit "worried" that could be easily gamed is the freiexchange part with "negative trading fee". Although its only a small percentage, with low price and possible attraction from trader-for-profits it could do more harm than good? I might be wrong though
  17. Ahh, respek to Rik then! Where can I send my freicoins to Rik? ;P @Rik8119 you should defo' post/include the donation address for your work somewhere ^^ (preferably in yer FA signature or other easy-to-find place
  18. Great work fedde! "Where I can send my freicoin tips to?!?!", hehe Maybe you can describe in short what was the problem / what you changed or tinkered with to get it working with Freicoin, if you have time that is? Also, a top 100 list of addresses would be cool basic feature to have Maybe even filter to check addresses between user set range (like addresses that hold 100k - 500k etc.).
  19. Tried the withdrawal on AskCoin.net as well, and indeed with no success; Withdrawal page -> 'Unlock Form' gives an 'Sending email failed. Please, try again.' error So have to second the note of "Use With Caution!"
  20. Yeah, the foundation address is public when the application is accepted and I'll post the mining address(es) in the thread when the miners are fired up for the project. How to do it easy and transparent with the shop/harvest sales stuff and the donation choosing will need some work, but there is months of time before that Transparency is indeed one of the main ideals ^^ Hehe, so to confirm; "TL;DR: Are you interested in participating to equipment costs / willing to invest? How much?" So I'll take you're more for the option 1 of the examples? *edit: @fedde ohh, heh, had the wrong link saved for the admin panel, though ye had it moved *doh* All good now
  21. https://foundation.freicoin.org/ Accessible also via http://freico.in/ -> 'Foundation' Donations page List of projects that have been approved for the Freicoin Foundation issuance program (aka Donation Matching) You can apply to the program on this page also ('Add new organization') Trade page List of some Freicoin accepting stores & services. You can list your own service on this page also ('Add new Merchant') Current update suggestion's to Foundation website: *** Moved post from [Support for Freicoin Core Developer] thread *** Since there were no other thread for separate FF (Freicoin Foudation) discussion, I'll post these short notes here Freicoin Foundation website (freico.in -> Foundation) - Registering to Foundation: After filling registration form and successfull sumbitting -> says registration OK to promts to login. However, email confirmation is required first (trying to login first time you get mentioned with rrror msg in browser: "Disabled account. Did you receive the confirmation email? Check your spam folder.") - 'Trade' section (freico.in -> Foundation -> Trade) NOT WORKING: Faucets - Freicoin Faucet http://freicoinfaucet.com/ NOT WORKING: Mining Info - Dust Coin http://dustcoin.com/ Outdated link: Mining pools - Fed&Fab FRC Pool http://frc.sicanet.net -> NEW https://freicoinpool.com NOT WORKING: Mining pools - First Freicoin pool http://pool.freico.in:9638/ NOT WORKING: Mining pools - FRCpool http://frcpool.com/ NOT WORKING: Mining pools - Joe's Pool http://FreiCoin.US NOT WORKING: Mining pools - vPool http://frc.vpool.us/ NOT RECOMMENDED / "hacked": Currency exchanges - Crypsty https://www.cryptsy.com/markets/view/39 NOT WORKING: Auction sites - FreiBay (previously Joe's Auction site) http://FreiBay.com NOT WORKING: Material / Physical Products - 51Attack http://www.51attack.com NOT WORKING: Online products - Freicoin Dice http://freicoin-dice.com NOT WORKING: Online products - Freicoin Raffle http://www.freicoin-raffle.org/ NOT WORKING: Online products - Freicoin Mafia http://freicoinmafia.com
  22. Hmm, I'll throw in an clarification and examples to the above; I can adopt the style for the experiment depending on your opinions Here's two examples that I have in mind now: 1. Do ONLY the mining shares between participants (this is what we did with the finnish dude) So only costs are the price of amount of shares one wishes to purchase and the electricity. Only reward will be the income from the mining/shares. I will personally handle the grow stuff and everything related to it (sell the harvest for FRC in webshop etc.) 2. Do the mining shares + share the harvest or its income when sold So the same as above (people still can invest varying amounts in the mining), share mining costs and income.. but also share growing equipment expenses and electricity. This way participants can either get their share of the harvest sent to them, or if sold in FRC shop (&matched via FA/FF? ;)), in coins (and choice for donation destination) When project comes to the end or going for equipment upgrades, we can sell the old gear in the internets and get some money back. Also possible for one to quit in the middle of grow/experiment; he can sell his shares to anyone he can find to accept with a price he wants (discounted for example) without the need from project "admin" *edit: BTW @fedde! Accept my FreiHemp account registration in FreiDC! I'll do an visual explainer with screenshots/recording for the mining shares ^^ Several pictures is worth several thousand words, right? So videos is... 23FPS x nAmount of secods.. yeah, worth a looooooong post
  23. Made the thread for the new project, but didnt fill out the description yet. I'll need few things confirmed, and thats for after Monday/Tuesday. Registered the FreiHemp as a foundation entry, since I messed around with the mining for heat + shares from miners & share electricity idea with it last year with one Finnish bitcoin enthusiast And as I have plans for outdoor hemp farming for next summer as well, thats both related to organic farming and co-ops, gathering/combining these similar projects will be easier and less time consuming for me hehe But ok, so for me to arrange the grow space and setup for the start, few things to confirm: Would you guys participate in updating the growing gear? The fishfarming is totally doable, but will increase the costs a bit. Depending how big tank we want, the cost seems to range from around 50eur for the initial cost for gear. Cost for the fish itself is a still bit open, but I do know there's few fish farmers in the neighbouring towns I do have soil setups already, but no full hydroponics setup (except for 1 DWC). 600W HPS is also already in use and now in winter time has good efficiency due to the usable heat, but going long term and "promoting" sustainability, LED could be also good addition? Also, do we want to have this as an "full" co-op; meaning, should we also look into sharing the ownership for all of the grow equipment and miners as well? I mean, if we want to promote usability for others that are thinking of doing similar co-op, we could/should offer expenses for calculating costs for profitability. Since I have the grow equipment ready and I wouldnt mind the experiment for this kind of sharing/co-op; we can look for the avarage price for the models on internet and price according to that (or just agree simple numbers). Then when dividing the shares, credit the worth of that equipment to my balance. (we could also turn the ownership of that equipment / separate items transferrable and have a "market" for it.. but yeah, thats for later) *edit: Ohh yeah.. also, maybe more efficient miner? S7 or new BitFury if they're available? haha, to not write a huge posts.. I'll ask those first TL;DR: Are you interested in participating to equipment costs / willing to invest? How much?
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