Rik8119

Well it will be mostly testing, thanks.

The Solidar Bot can now be connected to a telegram account.
Just send our telegram Solibot @solidar_bot the message: "id". Take that id and post it with the command telegram: "telegram id" to our facebook Solibot. Then you can chat with the bot in telegram like with the bot in facebook messenger..

The Solidarbot is planned also to be active on Telegram and Whatsapp. It is planned that you create a user account with the facebook bot and then use the bot to link your Telegram id to the bot in Telegram, so he knows you are using this app also. In that way you do not need to install the messenger on your phone if some other is already installed.

Oh.. i like that... Gamble.... hahaha  

It is crazy how loose everything is at the moment. Remember the days when if something was pre-mined they were hated on. Even ripple when it came out was not liked by the community.
Well what ways can we help to get more help to you? If i could provide technical skill i would, but i cant because i have 0 skill. i can spare some donations here and there but i dont think we have enough people to get a good enough kitty up to provide an incentive to get more devs on board.
maybe we get a kitty together and put it all on red or black?  a few times atleast haha

Any chance of a step through on how to do it for a complete noob? Im using freiexchange as my wallet as i can never get the wallet to work

I have 9.0 on Lubuntu "yakkety" release with no problems running my version of the wallet.
A progress to 0.15 would be great if we can fast forward that, alot of backward compability will be history with old libs etc etc.

So, regarding releases...should we keep working on 0.9 for the next release and also start working on a 0.15 rebase for the next after that one?
 

Well, I'll be ready! With the 0.9 wallet, I learned how to compile it on my Mac, because my linux computer was 32 bit and Windows is crap. Once my home renos are done, I'll be buying a new 64 bit tower to run linux, and will be eagerly anticipating testing/compilling the next wallet! (PS I still think its rather cool that I am the only one running a 0.9 on my MAC :-p)

Well, first of all if one chain is planned to be abandoned after some 1wp period, some coins will get lost there.
I don't see the point in doing any kind of peg between 2 currencies with different subsidies (money creation) in different chains. The 2:1 up to 50 M also seems pointless.
I don't think another chain helps with the foundation problem in any way.
Apart from that, I would prefer a hf to elements features or a spin-off (if we really want a new genesis block) than a one way peg. But I guess we can leave that for other threads.

That's fantastic news! I haven't had this one in sight at all! That's so easy, the merchant can set a price in Solidar, you can contact them in messenger, and buy the product with the messenger. Easy as breathing ;-).

Here're the new logos for Solidar
 
 

> allow pegs into this sidechain to be doubled in quantity 2:1 so that up to 50M freicoins can be moved from the old chain to the new chain, resulting in 100M on the other side. The new chain would also have its own subsidy so, if all goes well, there is a period of coexistence where both chains are used, until the peg pool is exhausted and the old chain is archived. 

This sounds, in principle, as a very bad idea to me.

I can't agree enough that we are currently limited by developer time. We need more developers.
However I'm very cautious about the ICO craze. ICOs are securities offerings, and doing or promoting an unlicensed securities offering is a serious offense punished by massive fines, jail time, and a lifetime ban of working in the industry. People haven't been burned ... yet. But it's just a matter of time. It can be frustrating to watch developers with nearly zero experience raise huge sums of money for poorly defined projects, and even more frustrating to see the biggest offenders get a pass by regulatory authorities as they are grandfathered in under the new regime. However I'd still rather do this the right way, the morally and legally justifiable way, even if that road is a little harder.
The situation is not so dire though. The features I would like to get into this new freicoin are mostly already written -- it's just a matter of polish and integration.

Thanks to Magius for introducing me in this topic, and thanks to everybody for appreciating and helping. 
A necessary premise, is that in this moment there is in Italy a growing debate about complementary currencies and there are several proposals by political parties. The matter is that the most of this people doesn't have any idea about what they are talking, but it's the mode and so everybody must say it's opinion. The other problem is that the Faz Project is based on a theory, and for understand deeply it's working way you must to study a bit, maybe some more than a bit. The most of people, including economist and politicians, like better easy slogans to hard studies. Anyway, the aim of the project is to realize a society in which is possible to give everybody a basic income and to finance economy without interest and debt. It seems a dream but it is scientifically possible. In our project isn't necessary State or any Public administration to participate. The project that we are building in an town of South Italy is founded on a Association of a certain number of enterprises (the most are very little business) and citizens. We found out an organization of 400 business, and for starting are enough, who constitute an Association and a "Consorzio per azioni", a kind of corporate syndication in which every member cannot have more than a little number of shares. The Corporate issue the bonds at negative tax rate ( f.e. ten per cent each year) so that the nominal debt disappear up the time scheduled in the issuing. Those bonds are virtual, as all bonds, and are subscribed by the association that distributes them among the members according to defined technical criteria. A bond issuing at negative tax rate is perfectly legal and doesn't create debt, because the value at the end of the period is almost zero. The members may use those bonds and fraction of them for payment in the community. The idea is to create a rechargeable card in which is possible to have simultaneously the bond and the normal currency, so that the payment may be done using both values. For a certain time (probably a long time), the business can sell their product in Euros and bond, f.e. 50% each. That's because there are many goods that is necessary to buy out of the community, but anyway this means that the most of people may double they spending power. The theory of the project is in our web sites. The project doesn't have boundaries, everybody in the world may participate, even if it starts as a local project and in the beginning the concrete exchanges may occur in the area. Faz is the acronym of Financial Autonomous Zone, and the idea is to build several communities all around the world. After a certain period (not so long) the issuing system is automatic so the project doesn't need a governance. Members are pushed to have cooperative behavior, because it is clear that this is the best way to meet their own selfishness.  
It would be very interesting to apply the Freicoin /Solidar for the project. We need of course a program for system management, and it isn't easy to built. 
Thank for your cooperation and understanding. 

If you need some help with this, let me know

This is quick guide to get started with own p2pool node that you can merge mine Solidar coin with. 
I mostly use debian, should work on Ubuntu also. Be aware that you might need to run a version 8 of debian.
Make sure you have Git installed ( sudo apt-get install git)
git clone https://github.com/wincev/p2pool.git p2pool This will put the p2pool code for Freicoin in p2pool directory.
Install requirements for running p2pool.
sudo apt-get install python-zope.interface python-twisted python-twisted-web Now, grab your coin daemon from freico.in and solidar.it,  install them and get them running.
Make sure you set the config files.
nano .freicoin/freicoin.conf This is minimal config 
server=1 daemon=1 rpcuser=freicoinrpc rpcpassword=yournastypassword rpcallowip=127.0.0.1 Similar for the merge mining, create a equal file with another rpcuser and password. 
Fire up the daemons 
freicoind -daemon solidard -daemon Let them sync fully, you will not be able to mine before they are fully synced.
Then go to the p2pool directory and create a start.sh (nano start.sh)
#!/bin/sh /usr/bin/python /home/p2pool/p2pool/run_p2pool.py --net freicoin --give-author 0 freicoinrpc yournastypassword \ --merged http://solidarrpc:[email protected]:55888 Make it executable with 
chmod 755 start.sh When wallets are synced, you can start the p2pool with merge mining by entering
./start.sh It should now fire up. Point your miners to stratum+tcp://your_ip_of_server:9638 with your freicoin address as username, password can be anything. Whenever a freicoin block is found, it will try and submit it on the solidar wallet also.
solidard getinfo To see if you get any solidar coins also into the solidar wallet.
(i will clean it up this thread, but this is basicly how it's done)

The Solidar Bot can now be connected to a telegram account.
Just send our telegram Solibot @solidar_bot the message: "id". Take that id and post it with the command telegram: "telegram id" to our facebook Solibot. Then you can chat with the bot in telegram like with the bot in facebook messenger..

Freicoin does not have basic income. It has a demurrage fee of 5% per year. This is achieved be the wallets simply destroying the funds. Simultaneously, 5% per year is newly generated and awarded to miners, 96 FRC per block. In order to come to this zero inflation system quickly, all Freicoin money supply was issued in 3 years. To experiment with alternative distribution methods, The Freicoin Foundation was created and 80% of the 'minted' currency was sent there. No alternative distribution method was ever created and the Foundation funds have been mostly untouched. We recently decided to destroy the Foundation.
 
Solidar also has all the currency issued too and has a basic income set up. To fund the basic income, there is a similar Foundation, as well as a 20% annual demurrage fee. Simultaneously with the demurrage,  20% is reissued as block reward. Of that, 0.01% goes to miners and 99.9% to the basic income Foundation. The Solidar Wallet functions identifically to Freicoin. Based on merged mining, however, the mining reward is split (is that correct @Rik8119?) Basic income is paid out through a system Rick set up on Facebook.

Well, that sounds fantastic. What can we do to help you out?

As I said you before, I'm the co-developper of an "analogic" alternative financial system called FAZ. We had the nomination from a local enterprises' pool of an italian South Italy city with about 160.00 inhabitants, to make a proposal for a local economic system based on a demurraged currency, basic income and free loans to enterprises. Our deal is to make a new Worgl experiment, the italian one! We have the guarantee that enterprises' pool will accept the currency and that the city major will accept the currency in payment for local taxes. We're going to work to a system based on negative rate corporate bonds used as currency, but could be interesting in parallel to understand if Freicoin/Solidar could be used, implementing also a free loans system in cryptocurrency. 

Additionally i will add the possibility do give the internal bot transactions a message so merchants can link those transactions to a specific sale.

Ok, i found someone from italy that already organized some meetings for freimoney projects in italy and agreed to take care of the homepage. If you have any suggestions feel free to bring them in.

Shocking 1.2 bln people are living on 2$ a day.. With a SLR price of 30 000$ we could pay everybody on the world 60$ basic income! #double #keepdreaming!
http://www.twodollarsaday.com/

Additionally i will add the possibility do give the internal bot transactions a message so merchants can link those transactions to a specific sale.