Rik8119

Ill go with Option 1

I'll vote for option 2, but I'm more  interested in a decision being made efficiently and implemented.
UPDATE:
so ill support any except option 3. It has bad optics and many wallets have been abandoned.

The basic income is payed through facebook messenger bot. Just log in and send "join" to register m.me/solidar.winc. There were some complaints about using facebook but there are some important features:
1. automation - i dont need to verify each account (facebook does it)
2. One can send SLR to any other registered bot user for free in no time
3. There is no knowledge about cryptocurrencies needed.
4. It runs on every system where the facebook bot runs.
5. The amount of potential users is "tremendous" ;-).
6. Facebook already has a marketplace for their included apps, that gives a lot potentially use cases.
You have to check your balance each month to let the bot know that you are active. And thats all.

@Skaro Hi, got my windows back up. Can not say why but usb is not starting had to use ps2. The new exe for windows is here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/hwrxnv39ss6xbu4/solidar-qt.exe?dl=0
Can you check please if all blocks are loaded? thanks a lot..

This could easily last a few months so please wait..

Wow

I started today to work on porting Solidar to version 0.14. I will start with the coin/ demurrage part first, so it can be ported to FRC with some effort..

I started today to work on porting Solidar to version 0.14. I will start with the coin/ demurrage part first, so it can be ported to FRC with some effort..

All i can see in the comit list that its just a fork of bitcoin 0.14 with no freicoin added.
 

It's fixed in the new version along with multiple markets to trade on. As i said in email, some user experience that they don't get error message that the 2 factor is not enabled, some do, but i have rewritten the whole subroutine to manage the funds on withdraw. 
And sorry for the delay on releasing btc, i am abit on and from yesterday and towards next monday, but i check in to process if needed.

WOW 890k at 50 sat somebody will be really sorry during the next pump.. If there will be one.

LOL ok, i looked into the current bitcoin code. And there is no file the same than in version 0.8.6 that solidar is on atm. i guess this will take a lot of hours...

Rik, if you need hosting, let me know, i'll hook it up on a server.

Indeed it is, blocks were read perfectly! The Interface is showing the blocks and i am very happy (although there are other important things on the list this was a pain for me for a long time).
I had a 50 SLR bounty for making a working block explorer, if you like to have it please say which address i should send to..
Rik

Hmm now it loads blocks like a charm.. Don't know what you guys did to my code but it seems to work, tomorrow ill be wiser..

Yeah you mentioned that before, the merge mining and the explorer. I believe you, but I don't really understand it. The way I see it, the explorer reads and parses in info from the wallet block chain files. as long as the block is valid it should read? But it's true that ABE  also surmises the current longest chain ...
 

Hmm now it loads blocks like a charm.. Don't know what you guys did to my code but it seems to work, tomorrow ill be wiser..

Though there are no dates to fix the progress i like to announce what is planned/going on and a short explanation also to #Solidar:
TOPIC: Port Solidar to Version 14, this will be a hard one, because Merge mining and demurrage has to be ported.
TOPIC: I like to make deposits possible and i am thinking about an easy to use/ effective (automated with no further interaction) way to prevent multiple accounts.
TOPIC: With the porting to V14 there is an easy way to compile windows clients on ubuntu what makes it a whole lot easier for me to compile new wallets for every version.
TOPIC: Marketing, make a short describing video.
TOPIC: Get the dnsseeder running again.
TOPIC: Get an own Forum for Solidar.
TOPIC: Program SolidarPay plugin to accept split payments with the merchant bot.
DONE: There is no explorer atm and the most convenient way seems to me to use an electrum server to query addresses, because most alternatives don't work for Solidar.
DONE: I like to advance the facebook messenger on-line wallet to increase merchant compatibility.
DONE:  @fedde is working hard to implement it into freiexchange.com, thanks a lot for that. Other exchanges are not planned atm as it is very costly to get Solidar on, there is no demurrage implemented and exchanges like to cut support when something is not as expected (mostly profits).
Here a short description what the concept is about:
When you just wait with your account (just check balance monthly to get an income) at some point you get as income what the demurrage cost you, so there is a stable redistribution system in place. So, at a certain point there is nothing to win by hoarding. As the higher balanced addresses are stronger degraded than the smaller even the basic income can not save those, so that sooner or later all look the same (excluded the mining addresses).
But as capitalism (the concentration of wealth) is an ongoing mechanism there will always be richer peoples that loose money to demurrage, so the monthly income is thought for those that can not save any money. They have to spend it and they profit the most because they get an unconditional income.
Demurrage money is meant to be spend for quality food, clothing, technology and social improvements (e.g. donations to open source developments/free music). Those who tend to hoard will not profit but most important dont take away opportunities from other people!
Of course the association have to use some funds to finance development marketing and organizations if there are not enough donations, but we try to keep the profile as low as possible and every coin spend will be transparent, so everybody can participate in keeping the costs low.
Most likely fedde will include Solidar first but i keep it updated..
Rik

Hi Skaro,
at the moment it is just possible to sign in by using the solidar bot at facebook. But my idea was to create a sign up portal where you can sign up with your email. I had around two hundred accounts on it. But most of them were without a Solidar address or even any login.
Additionally it was not possible to manage the payout automatically, so i had to use an sendtomany command to send the income and had to control which addresses were new and if they were up to date..
So i decided to switch to the facebook bot. It can check if a user has send a request in a month, so he receives the income for being active. One can send and receive solidar with other bot users off chain (fast and fee free). And you can withdraw your coins via the bot. Everything automated..
I can try to use the ABE explorer but i did it a few times in the past and it always got stuck after some time (my guess is that the merge mining created big blocks when there was a miner using p2pool with 256 coinbase payout addresses each block (only for the parent chain). But hey, lets try ;-).

a) Can the Market wallet receive the 'basic income'?
 
Where do you sign-up for the basic income?
 
c) Can't you use our new explorer for Solidar? I should think all you have to do is:
1)clone it from GitHub then search and replace in DataStore.py and Abe.py "1/POWER(2,20)" with "4/POWER(2,20)"
2) other regular ABE things that change for different coins.
 

Well, we could try promoting it.

for Solidar, i guess in the beginning its mainly advertisement and a clear vision to get it started.
Also you should think about giving some incentive to hold some coins. Like interest up to double the universal dividend. Same incentive is also missing in grantcoin.
Also of course a exchange is needed and an experience of price increase can help lot.

I somehow have the feeling that the whole crypto scene is stuck. Bitcoin price isnt really moving and maybe it is the hot summer/holidays or the fork comming on august 1st or a mix of all. But also freicoin price is not moving. There are only few trades and they are all around the same price. There is not much action in the forum and even less on github.
And i am not yet sure if is the free fall or the eye of a storm - i tend to the 2nd..

currently many of the crypto tokens seem overrated. Many coins had a tenfold the last months. many coins are just junk. tons of ipos got tons of millions.
daily millions are burned for mining fees. bitcoins growth is artificially limited with the blocksize. federal reserve is increasing interest on dollar. summer hole for investments (june to october)... People need money for holidays.... coinbase collapsing because of too many users.... bitcoin miner vs developer vs industry vs users....
crazy world....
its fully unclear what is happening.... crazy times....
 
 
 
 

Atm its: @Skaro, @fedde, @Arcurus and @Bicknellski and me that are actively discussing/improving. There are some others that joining in from time to time but we are the core.
Latest Improvements are:
1. A blockexplorer showing the balance with the demurrage substracted -> freicoin.info.
2. A fast, good looking and easy to use exchange -> freiexchange.com.
3. Freicoin Wallet 0.9 tested and working -> https://github.com/eddef/freicoin.
4. The newest p2pool ported to freicoin -> http://alfa.sicanet.net:9638/static/ (Payout and Transaction count is not displaying correct but i will look into it when i have the mood;-).
5. Coinomi multiwallet including freicoin (beta version -should work but i am the only one that tested it atm) -> https://github.com/wincev/coinomi-android
I hope i haven't forgotten something!?
Rik