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    Bicknellski reacted to Arcurus in [Draft] How we could use demurrage fees as transaction fees and what benefits this would bring - Soft Fork   
    How we could use demurrage fees as transaction fees and what benefits this would bring:
     
    Theoretically it would be possible to use the demurrage fee as transaction fee.
    This could look like this:
    In an given block a part* of the block-reward is assigned to transactions as additional paid fee*** according to how much demurrage they pay (similar to coin age the transaction destroys). 
    This could be implemented as soft fork.
    This would help also to reduce that transactions get stuck because of not paying enough fees.
    As benefit this would also increase temporally the block reward and therefore attract more mining power** if more transactions need to be confirmed, and lower the reward if less transactions need to be confirmed. This would therefore increase the blocktime on days where lot of transactions need to be confirmed and reduce on days when less transactions need to be confirmed. As side effect this would increased the capacity in case of need and reduce in case of not need, and therefore balance out the transaction fees (more easy to calculate).  
     
     
    * the more Freicoin is used the higher this percentage could be
    * in practice the exact in this way assigned block reward should be averaged over a longer time period like 2 weeks
    * it would be good to use the log(demurrage) instead of demurrage for this distribution, this would benefit users that transact regularly.
    ** only if in competition for mining power with other coins
    ***  it could be good practice to distribute the fees over the next X lets say 10 blocks, so that an individual miner has not much benefit in creating more transactions to get more fees then other miners.
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    Bicknellski reacted to Arcurus in Freicoin Resources   
    @Skaro currently in Freicoin the demurrage fee is not used as transaction fee. 
    Therefore yes users would have to pay more transaction fees if in the future Freicoin is widely used and the block limit stays similar to Bitcoin Core.
    Theoretically it would be possible to use the demurrage fee as transaction fee.
    This could look like this:
    In an given block a part* of the block-reward is assigned to transactions as additional paid fee*** according to how much demurrage they pay (similar to coin age the transaction destroys). 
    This could be implemented as soft fork.
    This could also help to reduce that transactions get stuck because of not paying enough fees
    As benefit this would also increase temporally the block reward and therefore attract more mining power** if more transactions need to be confirmed, and lower the reward if less transactions need to be confirmed. This would therefore increase the blocktime on days where lot of transactions need to be confirmed and reduce on days when less transactions need to be confirmed. As side effect this would increased the capacity in case of need and reduce in case of not need, and therefore balance out the transaction fees (more easy to calculate).  
     
    * the more Freicoin is used the higher this percentage could be
    * in practice the exact in this way assigned block reward should be averaged over a longer time period like 2 weeks
    * it would be good to use the log(demurrage) instead of demurrage for this distribution, this would benefit users that transact regularly.
    ** only if in competition for mining power with other coins
    ***  it could be good practice to distribute the fees over the next X lets say 10 blocks, so that an individual miner has not much benefit in creating more transactions to get more fees then other miners.
    More to that we can discuss here:
     
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    Bicknellski reacted to Rik8119 in FAZ, Demurrage and Basic Income   
    Maybe because enrich the miners is no social cause?
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    Bicknellski reacted to fedde in [FreiExchange] - News and Updates   
    Hi all
    We have added ANC/BTC to the trading - Welcome
    New coins can request to be added on https://freiexchange.com/pages/coin_request 
    Api has been updated with abit more info on each trade pair.
    We continue development to extend the exchange with more functionality over the next few weeks. More of this later.
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    Bicknellski reacted to magius in The end of the foundation   
    @Mark Friedenbach the role of Foundation in Freicoin seems conceptually very similar to the role of Association (Winc e.V.) in Solidar. In Freicoin the Foundation owns funds that distributes as grants to noprofit associations, instead in Solidar the Association owns funds that distributes as basic income to individuals. 
    IMHO could be good to merge Freicoin and Solidar code to start a new Freicoin. Could be interesting to reuse the Foundation coding to implement a way to distribute basic income without the need to use the Facebook Messenger bot.  
     
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    Bicknellski reacted to magius in FAZ, Demurrage and Basic Income   
    FAZ, Financial Autonomous Zone
    The economy for a post-scarcity society
     
    Overview
    The FAZ, FINANCIAL AUTONOMOUS ZONE is an alternative economic system based on abundance rather than scarcity.
    The FAZ is a concrete proposal for a structural economic change through an innovative and sustainable socio-productive model of aggregation, based on participation, which facilitates the creation of wealth and its social redistribution both, providing support, protection and development of the economy, protection of the population economically weaker sections and funding increase of public utility services, without increasing debt. Entering into the FAZ, companies, associations, institutions and individuals will have the opportunity to manage their own economic and social relationships using the unique tools provided by the FAZ: a currency, to be spent within the FAZ, loans without interest, basic income periodically distributed equally to all participants as a function of the wealth produced in the FAZ.
    Post-scarcity economy. To facilitate change in our society it’s necessary to change the economy, basing it on the abundance rather than scarcity. According to Richard Stallman (GNU Manifesto, 1985) and Cory Doctorow (Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom, 2003), an “economy of post-scarcity” is a system for the management and allocation of resources always sufficient to meet the needs perceived by individuals. Instead the economy as we know, or the ‘”economy of scarcity”, is a system in which there is an efficient allocation of scarce resources for definition, or always below the needs perceived by individuals.
    According to Frank Tipler (Physics of Immortality, 1988), resources are unlimited – so abundant but, of course, not endless – on the physical realm, in the sense that they are always sufficient for each living unit in the time of his life. Concrete example of unlimited abundance and yet finished, is solar energy: mankind receives from the sun 3,850,000 exajoules of energy each year, while the total power consumption is less than 440 exajoules (Wikipedia).
    The fact that this abundance is not yet available shows that the problem of resources is an issue to be seen as not-objective but in perspective, that needs to be placed on a conceptual level and not on a mere accounting one, given a certain capacity utilization. This, in fact, depends on the scientific knowledge, that has a capacity of growth at least equal to the growth of the life in the universe.The demonstration provided by Frank Tipler is based on considerations of Friedrik Von Hayek (Selected Writings, 1972) according to which the capital of a company is given by the revenue streams generated from the company itself. The corporate capital is not a sum of goods which have their own intrinsic value and it’s how the existing resources are used, that determines how the income streams are generated. Income opportunities generated by how the company’s total assets are used is a function of information flows, that can be managed by the company itself. It is possible, therefore, to define the resources in terms of opportunities and therefore of information flows, manageable by an organism. Tipler comes to the conclusion that the resources in the universe are always sufficient, since it is demonstrated that the amount of information that can be managed in the lifetime of an organism is necessarily less than the total available information, whatever the speed of management of such information. This organism could be an elemental life, a society, a galaxy or the entire universe and does not change the nature of the phenomenon.
    If resources are not infinite but abundant and their use is related to knowledge, must be redefined the concept of wealth. The wealth of a community is given by the ability to organize information flows that generate income opportunities and this organization ability depends on the creativity and the cultural level of the given society. If wealth is not material, it follows that it is no longer necessary to be accumulated. That changes the idea of money, paving the way for the emergence of a new kind of money that is a flow before than a status, so – as in the case of gift – is possible to conceive a money that can be spended without causing an impoverishment.
    The first and most revolutionary consequence of this assumption is that there is no need for any material accumulation of capital. The capital required for the development of a company is given by the knowledge of a society and their ability to organize it. Without this element, all the raw materials of the world would be useless and could not produce anything.
    Social Capital, Life Credit, Investment Credit. This body of knowledge is the “Social Capital”, the engine of development and growth of a society that should be considered as a factor of production along with other commonly considered necessary for the production, such as raw materials, labor, financial capital. It is formed by the multiplication of the knowledge of all society members and is a reciprocal function of the division and specialization of labor. In fact, the division of labor increase involves the collective knowledge increase, but also the increase of that, involves a division of labor increase.
    The remuneration of Social Capital as a factor of production justifies, at a theoretical level, the establishment of an Universal Basic Income (UBI), that we define “Life Credit”. All the members of a society have the right to participate in the distribution of the income resulting from the use of a factor of production. The formation of which everyone participates, regardless of any measure of participation, since the capital would serve no purpose without the contribution of all. Without that knowledge it would not be possible any activity of production. The Life Credit is a basic income and as a redistribution of the Social Capital proceeds, generates an idea of social equality that does not involve leveling of differences and individual merit, these differences do not translate into economic inequalities but tend to place themselves on the level of social recognition.
    Is well known that for the Kahn and Keynes multiplier, the investment of a sum involves a return into wealth, ranging from two to five times the investment done. The basic income must be commensurated with the scale of the investments being made in a society and must be derived from the effect of the multiplier that any investment produces in the society. A portion of each investment goes to remunerate the production factors and the risk of enterprise, but another part must remunerate the Social Capital. Currently, however, this part goes into the financial speculation in a downward spiral that can not come to an end because the interest on the monetary capital always tend to grow and to be repaid must generate more debt that will add to the interest component of the total capital.
    Life Credit does not replace income from work but it complements it and its determination must tend to an amount at least sufficient to subsistence, so that everyone can have the means and the time required to develop their talent and creativity. Only stimulating creativity and freeing at least for the part relating to the vital needs, the income from work, you can get an increase of the Social Capital.
    The creation of money has to be carried out on investment on a strictly automatic basis. This prevents the management of the credit to be transformed into a discretionary power which is absolutely deleterious whether it is managed according to a political criterion, whether it is instead held by financial technicians who, through it, handle enormous power. The Social Capital may be expressed by a number which substantially coincides with the money supply as a whole or a portion of it. Of course, this coincidence will be much more precise in an economic environment in which money is issued on investment, but roughly even today we can say that in essence the non-speculative money supply (i.e. the set of financial instruments, which provide money excluding substantial part of the derivatives instruments) coincides with the Social Capital.
    We can determine the individual credit capacity in the amount of money supply of each member of a society. A share on which each can have credit and must have at its request, in the form of negative rate loans. We define it “Investment Credit”. This credit capacity can be transferred to another individual exactly as now you are buying shares of a company on the stock exchange or at the time of the enterprise constitution. From the individual point of view, when someone asks for a loan based on his credit capacity, this resets and reconstitutes itself as the individual returns the credit obtained.
    In the FAZ, when someone requests to carry out an activity, it’s created the money by issuing a sum for the investment, (Investment Credit), and consistent with the timing of the realization of this and it’s created a corresponding sum to be distributed among all the participants (Life Credit).
    This issue is fully justified in the Fisher equation on investments, since an increase of the activity must need an increase in the money supply.
    While the ordinary loans are issued with a positive rate to fund the issuer and therefore must be redeemed at maturity, negative rate loans, since at the end have zero value and therefore the issuer does not have to repay the principal, may be given away for free.
    This environment makes also reasonable the Say’s law, since for each issuance of money for investment we have another one for consumption.
    FAZ Money. In the FAZ, the money, that we define as “FAZ Money”, is charged with a a time-related fee called demurrage. The demurrage acts in a similar manner to a rental fee, the charge increasing the longer the rental is held onto. Anybody holding the FAZ Money would be charged the demurrage fee in proportion to the time it is held. Because the FAZ Money will exist only in electronic form, it is easy to know exactly how much time has elapsed between the moment a user receives it and when it is transferred to someone else.
    The two important effects of a demurrage based money usage are: the first that money does not create debt and the second that money disappears from the system as the assets that it has helped to create, become obsolete. The demurrage rate depends on a function that is described by the average rate of obsolescence of the created assets. It also prevents the accumulation of financial capital and promotes the maximum velocity of money circulation.
    Unlike inflation, demurrage gradually reduces only the value of currency held. It functions as a negative interest on currency held, instead of inflation that also reduces the value of savings or retirement funds and increases the value of the commodies’ basket known as Consumer Price Index (CPI). Both inflation and demurrage reduce the purchasing power of money held over time, but the demurrage does so through fixed regular fees, while inflation does in not fixed manner and in a variety of ways that is not always easy to predict.
    According to Gresham's law ("bad money drives out good") a demurraged currency is a “bad currency” because the increased velocity of circulation stimulated by the demurrage, drives his usage and causes the thesaurization of the fiat currency (euro, dollar). This led some such as German-Argentine economist Silvio Gesell to propose demurrage as a means of increasing both the velocity of money and overall economic activity.
    “Only money that goes out of date like a newspaper, rots like potatoes, rusts like iron, evaporates like ether, is capable of standing the test as an instrument for the exchange of potatoes, newspapers, iron and ether. For such money is not preferred to goods either by the purchaser or the seller. We then part with our goods for money only because we need the money as a means of exchange, not because we expect an advantage from possession of the money. So we must make money worse as a commodity if we wish to make it better as a medium of exchange."
    — Silvio Gesell, “The Natural Economic Order”
    The loss of value is crucial to create a not scarce money. Since the currency gradually expires and goes out the monetary mass, which decreases, it will be possible to issue currency in surplus, in fact operating a Keynes’ “deficit spending” without creating debt.
    The inability to accumulate money will eliminate the problem of the Liquidity Trap that’s one of the problems underlying the current financial crisis and the inability to get out. At the same time, on the perspective view of the Fisher equation, using a demurraged currency we are in an economic environment that tend to be deflationary, since the money supply tends to decrease gradually and grows only for investments. If wealth creation is greater than the factor 2 hypothesized, the prices should tend to decline and this could justify further issues of money as Life Credit.
     
    Conclusions. The FAZ is the most direct way to build a society based on the solidarity behavior that could use as driving force the selfish individualism. It’s a tool that supports aggregate demand, resulting in recovery of the real local economy, do not create harm to an economic system because does not affect the debt and encourages the development and the evolution of the network culture and society. FAZ prevents the accumulation of money and drives people to spend it to feed their skills and therefore their creativity. When a FAZ will be estabilished, the main stimulus will be the individuals’ creativity and the achievement of ambitious personal and collective targets. Using the same logic that drives the open source world, people will be brought to work together to seek personal glory and not money, which only becames an unit of account. It will be a long and painful process to remove from the minds of the people money as god and its salvific function, FAZ is a toolset to start it.
     
     
    This proposal was written by Domenico De Simone and edited by Marco Giustini. The text is released under Creative Commons License, BY-NC-SA/3.0. Please write to [email protected] for further information.

     
     
     
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    Bicknellski reacted to fedde in Website Updates   
    Forum updated and moved to new server. 
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    Bicknellski got a reaction from fedde in Big Picture Montessori School Project - Precious Plastic Workspace   
    We would love to use WNC input on this. I will be taking some time with students probably until March 2018 to plan this out. I'm looking at getting a small box truck to hold all the equipment so this could be a rolling Precious Plastic workspace so we can go to other communities and schools to do recycling.
    http://olx.co.id/iklan/toyota-truk-engkel-dyna-box-115-st-besi-4-roda-th-2004-murah-bagus-IDrPJ6h.html#6309a49e34
     
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    Bicknellski reacted to fedde in Freicoin 0.9   
    Hi all
    Freicoin 0.9 compiled ok on Lubuntu 17.04 with QT5. 
    There was a problem with compile flags (CXX_FLAGS)  for the QT wallet, once that was corrected it compiled ok.
    How are these set in the Makefile when autogen/configure is run?
    Cheers.
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    Bicknellski reacted to Rik8119 in Provide ICO to New alt coins   
    Hi @FreedomCare,
    we discussed this idea a little bit within the Future of Freicoin thread. The opinion of @Mark Friedenbach was that its legally very tricky and therefore he decided against it. And it would mean that someone has to convert the freicoin blockchain to a new chain and some need to be some timeplan to make the project more attractive for investors and that was not the plan for Freicoin.
    Greetings Rik
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    Bicknellski got a reaction from Rik8119 in Stuck!   
    We had 100's of ideas posted on this about 4 years ago I think. Sadly the devs didn't like any of the proposals.
     
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    Bicknellski reacted to Rik8119 in Basic income in Solidar   
    Correct, of the 20% demurrage 0.02% goes to miners and 19.98% to the basicincome fund. Merged mining only has to do with how the new blocks are found, not with the reward.
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    Bicknellski reacted to Skaro in Basic income in Solidar   
    Freicoin does not have basic income. It has a demurrage fee of 5% per year. This is achieved be the wallets simply destroying the funds. Simultaneously, 5% per year is newly generated and awarded to miners, 96 FRC per block. In order to come to this zero inflation system quickly, all Freicoin money supply was issued in 3 years. To experiment with alternative distribution methods, The Freicoin Foundation was created and 80% of the 'minted' currency was sent there. No alternative distribution method was ever created and the Foundation funds have been mostly untouched. We recently decided to destroy the Foundation.
     
    Solidar also has all the currency issued too and has a basic income set up. To fund the basic income, there is a similar Foundation, as well as a 20% annual demurrage fee. Simultaneously with the demurrage,  20% is reissued as block reward. Of that, 0.01% goes to miners and 99.9% to the basic income Foundation. The Solidar Wallet functions identifically to Freicoin. Based on merged mining, however, the mining reward is split (is that correct @Rik8119?) Basic income is paid out through a system Rick set up on Facebook.
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    Bicknellski reacted to Rik8119 in Basic income in Solidar   
    Hi Marc, it sound a little like you are mixing Solidar and Freicoin. Freicoin has no merge mining, all new coins are now distributed to miners and there is no basic income in Freicoin. And yes a not fixed income has a bad effect on credibility.
    Solidar has an 99.9% distribution to the basic income fund and 0.1 % to miners. However this can change when price rises (miner reward may schrink).
    And the 10 Solidar is now enough for something like 300k users if there are more users some day in the far... far... future the payout will be reduced. (4ksat /month is the amount for 8 billion humans -for example).
     
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    Bicknellski reacted to Rik8119 in New logos for Solidar   
    Hi Marc,
    thank you very much for the logo. However i am still undecided to implement the new logo, because it is some work to do and i like it a bit more colorful with more details. Maybe some others can give us input, which version is fitting best for the Solidar coin? Thanks a lot.

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    Bicknellski reacted to magius in New logos for Solidar   
    Here're the new logos for Solidar
     
     



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    Bicknellski reacted to Rik8119 in Facebook Marketplace   
    But i cant find a possibility to change the currency. So maybe it is the only option at the moment to include in the title Solidar to find products offered for Solidar.
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    Bicknellski reacted to Rik8119 in Facebook Marketplace   
    That's fantastic news! I haven't had this one in sight at all! That's so easy, the merchant can set a price in Solidar, you can contact them in messenger, and buy the product with the messenger. Easy as breathing ;-).
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    Bicknellski reacted to magius in Facebook Marketplace   
    https://www.facebook.com/marketplace
    here's the marketplace ready to be used with messenger! actually messenger is used to contact goods' seller by buyer, but through the solidar bot is ready to make transactions!!!
     
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    Bicknellski reacted to Rik8119 in Solidar bot   
    Another month passed by, another Solidar income is payed.. enjoy ;-)
    Merchant functionality is taking a bit longer than planned but its a matter of when not if ;-)
    (It is planned that you can create as many merchant accounts -0.5 SDR/account- as you like with up to 3 users associated to the account with admin rights).
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    Bicknellski reacted to Rik8119 in Solidar bot   
    Well it will be mostly testing, thanks.
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    Bicknellski reacted to Rik8119 in Solidar bot   
    The Solidar Bot can now be connected to a telegram account.
    Just send our telegram Solibot @solidar_bot the message: "id". Take that id and post it with the command telegram: "telegram id" to our facebook Solibot. Then you can chat with the bot in telegram like with the bot in facebook messenger..
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    Bicknellski reacted to Rik8119 in Solidar bot   
    The Solidarbot is planned also to be active on Telegram and Whatsapp. It is planned that you create a user account with the facebook bot and then use the bot to link your Telegram id to the bot in Telegram, so he knows you are using this app also. In that way you do not need to install the messenger on your phone if some other is already installed.
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    Bicknellski reacted to magius in New website for Solidar   
    Hi all, me is the one from Italy collaborating with Rik8119 to enhance the Solidar website 
    It's from the start I know Freicoin and in the past I translated the documentation into italian, that unfortunately seems to be lost 
    Me also I'm a developper of an economic system called FAZ (Financial Autonomous Zone) based on demurrage and basic income, but it's...analogic! I mean is not blockchain based, it's a financial system based on negative rate corporate bonds, issued as currency. Here's the documentation of our project in english:  https://financialautonomouszone.wordpress.com/english/
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    Bicknellski reacted to Mark Friedenbach in The end of the foundation   
    With a 1wp we cannot expect all coins to move to the new chain -- some wallets are lost for example, so when do you stop supporting old UTXOs? With a spinoff or hard fork it would be possible to inherit the old UTXO set, but at the cost of not being able to deprecate handling the old chain data structures. A sync from genesis requires understanding the old chain up to a certain height, then switching to code that handles the new chain. Alternatively you can dump the UTXO set and import it at the changeover height, but do you still handle old style transactions at that point? Do you flag day expire them so at some point you just drop compatibility? What date do you choose for that?
    None of the choices there seem obvious, clean, or desirable. The 1wp with dual subsidies is a middle ground. You allow people to voluntarily move coins over and the new chain code never has to understand the old one except as is required for the peg code. You limit the maximum transfer however to something slightly larger than the current issuance. It will take some time for subsidy to play out on the old chain enough to exhaust that peg in limit -- longer if there are substantial lost coins or if people are asleep at the wheel. During that time both chains are operational. But once it is done you can remove the pegin and legacy transaction handling code from the new chain, and the old chain dies off (because subsidy can no longer be transferred to the new chain so it loses value).
    As mentioned by Skaro it is relevant to this thread because it achieves something close to option 3, but in a regulatory compatible way while also incentivizing dual use of the chains during the upgrade process, and solving the old UTXO problem once and for all. 
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